{"id":368,"date":"2005-05-27T09:22:09","date_gmt":"2005-05-27T09:22:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/idiolect.truth.posiweb.net\/notes\/?p=368"},"modified":"2005-05-27T09:22:09","modified_gmt":"2005-05-27T09:22:09","slug":"latex-and-bibtex-or-how-im-solving-the-filing-problem","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/idiolect.org.uk\/notes\/2005\/05\/27\/latex-and-bibtex-or-how-im-solving-the-filing-problem\/","title":{"rendered":"Latex and Bibtex: (or &#8220;How i&#8217;m solving the filing problem&#8221;)"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p><i>This is related to previous posts (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.idiolect.org.uk\/notes\/archives\/science\/the_filing_problem.html\">one<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.idiolect.org.uk\/notes\/archives\/cat_science.html#000240\">two<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.idiolect.org.uk\/notes\/archives\/science\/the_filing_problem_.html\">three<\/a>) if you are not interested in managing academic references or document preparation: <b>turn back now<\/b><\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I&#8217;ve started using <a href=\"http:\/\/www.latex-project.org\/\">Latex<\/a>, and although it hurt to get started, i think i&#8217;m now converted. The logic, and power, of it makes it infinitely preferable to Word if you&#8217;re doing things more complicated than a one page letter. It&#8217;s a mark-up language, so not What You See Is What You Get (like MS Word), but more What You See Is What You Want. I swore after the last paper I submitted that i would never use Word for longer documents again, and I think it&#8217;s a promise i&#8217;ll be able to keep.<\/p>\n<p>One nice thing with Latex is that if there&#8217;s anything you can think of doing with a document then someone else has already thought of it and written an add-in to let you do just like that. Like  <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ctan.org\/tex-archive\/help\/Catalogue\/entries\/psfrag.html?action=\/tex-archive\/macros\/latex\/contrib\/supported\/psfrag\/\" title=\"thanks mike\">psfrag<\/a> which lets you modify the labels (content and font etc) of figures from within latex, so your figures always look compatible with the rest of your document.<\/p>\n<p>Although one idiosyncrasy of the programme, which i wish I&#8217;d been told earlier, was that you need to compile your document a couple of times before you get a good output. This is to do with Latex needing a couple of passes through to pick up all the cross-references, page boundaries etc (or something). In practice it means that you have a look at the end result and it doesn&#8217;t seem to take account of your changes, but if you just had another look (ie ran latex on your document for a second time) it <i>would<\/i> work. I learnt this <a href=\"http:\/\/www.it.usyd.edu.au\/~dasymond\/dtiab\/howto.html\">here<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Latex does automatic inclusion of citations (ie in line mentions) and references (ie the compiled list at the end) with bibtex. Although bibtex is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.iam.ubc.ca\/~newbury\/tex\/bibtex.html\">powerful<\/a> and comes with lots of tools (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ecst.csuchico.edu\/~jacobsd\/bib\/tools\/bibtex.html\">one<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/directory.google.com\/Top\/Computers\/Software\/Typesetting\/TeX\/BibTeX\/\">two<\/a>) available, I can&#8217;t find a nice front end with which to manage my references. So although i&#8217;m going to use it (have to use it) to put references in Latex documents, I&#8217;m going to keep using <a href=\"http:\/\/www.endnote.com\">endnote<\/a> to manage my references. I was using <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblioscape.com\">biblioscape<\/a> which is nicer in lots of ways, but a bit flaky when talking to MS Word (and that&#8217;s something i&#8217;m going to keep having to do, if only because not all the people i work with are going to start using Latex).<\/p>\n<p>So, problem: using Endnote with Latex (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.cvrti.utah.edu\/~macleod\/litbase\/endnote.html\">one<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.unc.edu\/~nghoffma\/resources\/useEndnote\/useEndnote.pdf\">two<\/a>). All I need to do is when I start on a document, is to move the references I want from Endnote to Bibtex. How hard can it be to get Endnote to export properly? Answer: harder than you think. Currently the easiest way I can see to do it is to export references from Endnote to Biblioscape (Biblioscape 6 and Endnote 8 talk to each other fine, I couldn&#8217;t get earlier version to be compatible) and then export from biblioscape to bibtex format. Not very elegant. Can anyone suggest a better way? (and yes, i have tried the Endnote bibtex export style. It&#8217;s broken).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is related to previous posts (one, two, three) if you are not interested in managing academic references or document preparation: turn back now I&#8217;ve started using Latex, and although it hurt to get started, i think i&#8217;m now converted. The logic, and power, of it makes it infinitely preferable to Word if you&#8217;re doing [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-368","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-technical-notes"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p5KQtW-5W","jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/idiolect.org.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/368"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/idiolect.org.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/idiolect.org.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/idiolect.org.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/idiolect.org.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=368"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/idiolect.org.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/368\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/idiolect.org.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=368"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/idiolect.org.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=368"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/idiolect.org.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=368"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}